Scoliosis, Stop Settling for OK!

What if I told you that scoliosis isn’t just a spinal issue, but it’s also a sensory issue as well?

In this episode of Three Questions, I unpack how even subtle spinal deviations can quietly disrupt balance, movement, and breath. Whether you’ve lived with scoliosis your whole life or are just beginning to understand its effects, this episode will provide you with a new lens: one that moves beyond “fixing” the spine and toward finding spinal slack, sensory integration, and functional freedom.

I discuss why some exercises don’t translate to daily life, how your breath can reveal hidden tension, and why your head and eye position might be the key to unlocking better movement. I also share simple, powerful assessments you can try right now to understand your own body better, especially if you’ve ever felt like traditional approaches weren’t enough.

If you’re a practitioner, a mover, or someone tired of being told to “just manage” your scoliosis, these three questions might help you stop settling for okay and start reclaiming your body.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Scoliosis, Stop Settling for OK!
• 0:21 Understanding Scoliosis Types & Diagnosis
• 2:58 Functional Scoliosis and Movement Patterns
• 4:31 Q1: Can You Move Your Head?
• 14:11 Q2: Can You Breathe?
• 19:43 Breath and Body Positioning
• 25:11 Q3: Is Your Exercise Translating to Daily Life?
• 30:20 Practical Exercises You Can Try

Transcript

Meghann Koppele Duffy: Welcome to Three Questions where critical thinking is king, and my opinions and research are only here to support your learning and hopefully deeper understanding. Hey, I am your host, Meghann, and I'm so honored you clicked on Three Questions today so we can dig in about scoliosis. Now, right off the bat, there are different levels of scoliosis.

Some much more severe, some super subtle. But what I want you guys to think about today is not just those severe cases. Sometimes just slight spinal deviation, whether it's deemed scoliosis or not, can really inhibit our balance systems and overall how we move. So just so we're on the same page about scoliosis, is scoliosis is usually diagnosed, you know, in those teen years, I dunno if you guys remember, I dunno if they still do this, but in gym class, we'd all take off our shirt, bend over and the gym teacher would look at our spine and say, good, good.

You go to the nurse, you're a mess. Call your parents. You know, which was, you know, think about being, I don't know what it's like to be a teenage boy, but as a teenage girl. Ugh. All right. That was like so awful. And because of that, I just wanna like just put ourselves in the shoes of that teenage girl or boy who is singled out, is told something's wrong with them when they think they're fine.

And back when I was younger, I actually had a cousin that had to be fully braced throughout her high school years. And just right now, I want all of us to imagine what it feels like to be in a straight jacket or you know, put yourself in like the tightest bra and underwear and clothes you could possibly imagine.

So just from a sensory perspective, guys, imagine what that feels like. And if you're like, Meg, I don't have to imagine I lived it. Well, I am sorry you had to go through that and maybe at the end of this podcast you'll find some solutions or find a question that helps you dig into a way to, I don't wanna say fix, but adjust your brain and body so that the rest of your life you can move with more freedom and hopefully less pain.

Alright. Now, scoliosis is often idiopathic, that's like my least favorite word, which means like no known cause. All right. Now what's super interesting about scoliosis is the spinal curvature seems to avoid the organs, which is like super important. I know we're all so interested about movement in our muscles, but organs are pretty damn important.

Now, the other scoliosis that I see a lot of in my studio is a more functional scoliosis, something that it can occur due to like an injury. Or neurological condition like foot drop. So if you have what I call like a hitch in your giddy up, like any sort of problem walking, maybe you sprained an ankle and you start walking differently, well the rest of the body has to adjust.

And if it becomes habitual, that becomes your new pattern and our spine, just like every other part of our body, will adapt to that. Now I am not giving either one. Diagnosis of scoliosis, hierarchy of which is worse. They both can be really jarring to the nervous system and movement. So again, these podcasts aren't, you know, a lecture about scoliosis, but, but I just wanted to drop those little tidbits so we can dig into our three questions.

All right. Question number one, can you move your head? Question number two. Can you breathe? And question number three is stretching or the exercises you're doing translating into sitting or walking. Now these three questions are critical to me and can unlock some untapped areas or maybe kind of reinforce what you're already doing that's working.

So let's dig into question number one. Can you move your head? That seems so simple, doesn't it? I mean, right now everybody move your head. So let's all tilt our head back. Tilt our head forward. Let's turn it to the right, turn it to the left. Maybe do a combination of both. Tilt it back into the right, tilt it back into the left, maybe down into the right and down into the left.

What do you notice? They're all not gonna feel great, my friends. Were there any that you're like, what the hell feels weird? Maybe it feels limited, or does it feel like you are moving so much? You're about to have like an exorcism, you know when her head spins around. So what I want you to do right now. Is which head direction felt the easiest to me, it's to the left.

So I want everybody to take their fingers and touch the back of your neck and don't do anything with it. Just touch it. And I want you to turn your head to the left. Maybe do that two times and now turn your head in the direction that felt sticky as hell.

Do you notice anything different? Well, when I turn my head to the right, it feels like my jaw is just jamming into my hand and it almost feels like my head is shifting more than rotating. Okay. You might have a range of motion that you physically can't do. Now, I'm not gonna get into corrections right now, but what I wanna do is translate this to your vestibular system.

Okay? Stay with me for a sec. Our vestibular system is three semi-circular canals in our inner ear. Um, nothing gross. Uh, total change of subject. Real quick, nothing grosses me out then like. Fluid, like stagnant fluid. So the vestibular system in those three semi-circular canals, uh, I, I promise I had a point with that.

That stagnant water thing, we have inside those semi-circular canals, tiny little hairs, and then there's fluid in the inner ear. So when we move our head, that fluid moves along. The semi-circular canals just kind of tickles that hair. Ew. I didn't like how that sounded. And it gives the brain sensory information about where our head is in space.

So when we tilt our head to the right, that semi-circular canal is gonna give the brain information and say, we've moved our head to the right. In a perfect situation, proprioception will say, yes, that is correct. I feel the muscles contracting and lengthening as we turn our head to the left or tilted to the right, whatever I'm saying.

And our visual system will either go, yes, yes, yes. I see that I am able to keep my eyes fixed on a point, or your eyes might move in the direction of your head is turning. So our three neurological systems that determine balance kind of go yes, yes, and yes. Now I don't live in a perfect world. So let's start with the vestibular system.

A lot of people get diagnosed with vestibular dysfunction or hypoactive vestibular system. Oh dear, that sounds terrible, doesn't it? But let's think about this guys. If you cannot turn your head to the right or tilt your head back and turn it to the right, the fluid in your inner ear is never gonna move.

In that direction, your brain's never gonna get information about that direction. Sensory information. So could we hypothesize that proprioception movement issues in our neck? And just so we're on the same page's, proprioception is how your brain knows where you are in space, right? So that's based off skin.

So like skin glide, skin pressure, um, how much the skin is moving or not moving our tendons, our muscles, fascia, that all gives the brain proprioceptive information. Okay, so say we can't move to the right, that vestibular system is never going to really be activated or giving information. So we're blaming the vestibular system, but it's like I've never even had an opportunity to work.

Okay. Please know I am not diagnosing you with proprioception or vestibular issues. I am asking you a question.

Are you not able to turn your head in the direction because you have some vestibular dysfunction? Could be that too. However, in my clinic. It is often a century mismatch between the two proprioceptive base, and it becomes a proprioceptive base. It becomes a chicken or the egg situation. Okay? So a lot of my clients, they go to vestibular therapy, great vestibular therapists, and they often feel worse after it.

Not because the vestibular PTs did a bad job. They probably did a great job. They got the person moving in the vestibular system, active in that direction. But Proprioceptively or visually the brain said, Uhuh, this ain't safe. I don't like it. Fatigue the system. Cause muscle strain, cause whatever, and they feel worse after.

Okay, so this is why it is so complex when we're dealing with scoliosis. Now, here's what I want you guys to do. Now, if you have scoliosis, you don't have to do this first part, you're already living in it. But everybody who doesn't have scoliosis, I want you to rotate your body a little to the left just a little bit.

Keep your nipples turning in the direction they are, and then just bring your shoulders and head back to straight. Okay? Now I want you to move your head. Tilt it to the right, tilt it to the left, tilt it back, move your head around in those same directions, what do you notice? Hey, it might be easier to move the head in certain directions and physically impossible to move the head in opposite directions.

Okay, so my biggest question, number one to you guys, if you have scoliosis or any spinal deviations, can you move your head? If you are not able to move your head in any direction, we need to look at that. We need to look at the vestibular, the visual component, and the proprioceptive component. Okay? I'm gonna give you a little teaser right now.

Get your spine twisted. Scoli people, you're already twisted. You're fine Scoli people. I want you to be pin straight. Make yourself perfectly straight, okay? Excuse me. Now tilt your head in that sticky direction again. Okay? Now close your eyes and move the head in that sticky direction.

Hold it. Rest. Let's regroup. I cannot see you guys. If you're watching on YouTube, you can see me move, but most of you are not watching me on YouTube, so you can't. So I twisted my chest to the left and brought my shoulders and head back center. I gave myself kind of a forced spinal curvature. I created tension in my spine.

I cannot physically without pain, tilt my head back into the right when I close my eyes, I can almost double my range of motion. So if your range of motion improved when your eyes are closed. It's not a vestibular vestibular problem. I just moved my head. I'm fine. It was a visual problem. My visual system is interfering here.

Now. If you close your eyes and it got worse, that could be proprioceptive or vestibular problem. Here's the bitch about vestibular. You cannot remove proprioception. You can close your eyes. We can create a va. We can take away a variable. We can take away eyes. Awesome. We cannot take away proprioception because if you're moving your head, proprioceptions gonna matter.

Even when your eyes are closed, proprioception matters. Okay, so in this podcast, I'm not gonna go through how I would determine propriocept of vestibular right now. I want you to determine, can you move your head? Can you move your head better when your eyes are closed? If you can move your head better when your eyes are closed, I want you to start remapping your vestibular and proprioception your movements, your exercises and your head position.

So being very specific about your head position and your movements with your eyes closed. Then once those systems are strong and integrated, we wanna bring visual back into it. It. I would also possibly suggest find yourself someone who understands eye exercises, whether they're a neuro studio teacher.

Um, Z Health teachers are also very educated on the visual system to help you open up and improve your visual field. But let me tell you, visual exercises alone will not fix this problem because it is a sensory integration issue, not just a visual. Okay, moving on. Can you breathe? I know this is a stupid question because if you're alive, you're breathing correctly.

Did you hear me? If you're alive, we're breathing, but what our breath is doing is gonna tell us a lot. Something I assess for a lot is breath. So there's a lot of people who like to release and force the diaphragm to move. Cool. Did that for years. It gave me short term results, not. Long term, I like to assess the breath.

So if a client can't breathe in a certain position, I know they are not able, they are not reflexively stable enough to mobilize the diaphragm as much as you need. Oftentimes, a lot of that instability is in the upper quadrant. What I mean about that is the shoulder girdle. If you're not a movement pro here, guys, the shoulder joint, the shoulder girdle is made up of four different joints and they're very close together.

So it is very easy for there to be brain mapping issues. Okay, so instability in the upper quadrant, meaning your whole shoulder girdle or even your cervical spine is going to inhibit how much your diaphragm moves. We could also argue that instability in the hip, the second most mobile joint in the body after your glenohumeral, the actual ball and the socket, shoulder, joint, one of the four, that instability can also affect diaphragmatic movement.

Okay, let's do a fun little drill. Right now. I'm like all about the drills today. I gotta put both feet on the ground here. All right, so have your legs a little bit wider than hip distance. I don't wanna screw up my microphone. Okay. And just have both of your palms up. Now, if you're driving, keep one hand on the wheel and just do this with the other hand.

Maybe wait till you're at a stoplight. All right? Just be careful. All right. So with both palms up, all I want you to do is inhale and exhale through your nose. Try it right now.

Now turn both of your palms down. Inhale and exhale through your nose.

Now turn just your right palm up. You guess it. Inhale and exhale through your nose and then switch left palm up, right palm down. And inhale and exhale through your nose.

Which was the stickiest? Which one was the best? And this always makes me laugh. Everybody always picks the breath where they feel the most muscles working. That ain't good. Breath my friends. Think of a baby. If you were a parent or are a parent, and you can remember when your first born was just a little baby and you were thought they weren't breathing.

Because they're breathing so efficiently. That's what I want for you all. So a good breath is a breath that's so long, easy, quiet. You didn't have to use a lot of muscles to do it. That's a good breath to me. An inefficient breath is a breath where you need to use all your goddamn muscles to breathe.

Please understand if you're doing breathing exercises, I am okay for you to use any breath technique you want. There are so many great ones out there. But what I would love you to do first is assess your body position and spine to make sure that your diaphragm is moving with ease and isn't already in tension.

Now my Scully people, we just moved your limbs, so if your breath improved when we just change the configuration of your arms, that's kind of awesome. Okay. So in my clinic, I would probably start with joint differentiation and not moving your spine. It's telling me that your scoliosis isn't interfering enough that we can't change our quadrants.

I know that was a lot of technical, it was a little vague. Uh, let, let me clarify please. So there's, there's two things I look at. Scoliosis is the spine and the quadrants. Okay, so our shoulder joint, that ball in the socket, the one of the four, and our hip joint are the most mobile joints in the body. And nobody's really using them.

I mean, we're using them, but we're confusing them with a lot of other joints. Yes. So I always like to clear up those first with my Scully clients. Because the more you can move those joints, the less mishegoss kind of, uh, it's a Yiddish word for, uh, uh, shit, garbage. My, uh, nanny used to say everybody has their own mishegoss, which everybody has their own problems.

Um, we wanna see, we want to make the spine have to do less and relax. Now if you have scoliosis and you did that quick little breath assessment and it made no difference. Well, that would tell me that your spine is a disruptor to your quadrants, and we really need to address and find what I call spinal slack first.

Okay? So if you're a practitioner, maybe you try that assessment with your clients. I would do it both seating and standing. Now, listen for breath sounds. Quieter is better, longer easy. Okay. They might pick the one they feel the most muscle activation. Why? Because they're finally feeling sensation and that does not suck.

Okay, so I'm gonna bring head movement and breath together because yes, when you have scoliosis, your head position is definitely going to affect your breath. I am going to get a bit bit technical for a moment, but I think it's very important, and I like whether you're a movement pro or not, I like to educate my clients and there is research for scoliosis that.

Home exercise program is critical. I mean, it's critical for everybody, but if you have scoliosis and you're not, don't have awareness or aren't feeling the benefits of your exercises, you're not going to do them. It is critical if you have scoliosis that you are daily doing little exercises to keep your brain, body, spine active and responsive to life and movement.

Okay, so I teach this sometimes in a group class because in a group class there's a lot of people with spinal deviations and scoliosis. I'm gonna do it with you guys here today. Now please, if you can't do this right now, just listen and if you can do it, do it with me, and it is at 21 minutes in. Okay, I'll put that timestamp in the, um, description.

What I want everybody to do is sit comfortably. What does that mean? Sit how you like to sit the most. I like sit with my legs crossed. So if you could just give me a moment. I'm gonna sit how I'm most comfortable. Now, what I want you to do, we're gonna use breath as the assessment again, but bring head movement into it.

First. Just breathe in through your nose, out through your nose. Now look your eyes to the right. Find a specific target. Come back to center. Now were you like, how far can I look my eyes to the right? Don't do that. All this needs to be casual. Do not force the movement. Do what feels natural. If you're a movement teacher and you organize it, stop.

Let's do it again. Look your eyes to the right. What's the first thing you say? Stare at it and breathe.

Bring your eyes back to center. Bring your eyes back to the right. You should be looking at the same target. Now, I want you to keep looking at that target and just turn your head so your nose, eyes, and tongue are staring directly at your visual target and breathe there.

Now keep your head and eyes looking at the target and just kind of rotate your body slightly towards the target. And breathe there. Come back to center. Let's do it to the other side. Look your eyes to the left and back to center. Let's do eyes only to the left. What do you see? Breathe there.

Now just turn your head in the direction your eyes are looking. So what you're looking at should be in the center of your visual field and breathe there.

Good. Keep your head and eyes and then just rotate your body a little, so kind of you know, your facing that visual target. And breathe there

and come back to center. Was there a position that your breath felt the easiest? If you could not find it, I want you to do this. Standing up position matters. Seated is going to interfere with pelvis moving around the legs, but this is a great assessment. My friends and also my scoli clients sit down, so we need to know.

So again, all we did was we tracked our eyes in a specific direction, then we just turned our head, then we turned our body. Now your natural movements is where your spine can actually move from. And what I'm looking for here, guys, is not more tension in the spine is slack. Let's think about our nervous system.

If you bent down and you feel a giant stretch in your hamstrings, can your body move any further? It's not a trick question. No, because your brain says, oh, this is the end of the, this is the end. We can't go anymore. Okay. If you create slack at your hamstrings or change your spinal position, you can probably go down further.

So when our nervous system feels a red light, it stops, it's gonna stop breath, it's gonna stop movement, it's gonna stop everything. So that was a quick little assessment to see. Do you need to open up your visual field? Do you need to adjust your head position or do you need more rotation at your lumbar spine or tho uh, at your like thoracic, lumbar juncture, wherever you rotated from?

Because in order to move our limbs efficiently and our spine, we need to have slack through our system, which brings us to question three. Is stretching or your exercises translating into sitting or walking. Now, why does this matter? I don't care if my clients are good at the gym. I want them to be good at moving through life.

And two things everybody does if they are able to. Not everybody has the luxury of walking something we take for granted. It's the the gift all my clients give to me. Yeah, is, I appreciate I don't destroy my body anymore with workouts. I appreciate every step I take because I work with people that that was all taken from them.

Some people after a stroke, it was taken immediately. Some people, it's been a progressive change, so I'm not trying to shame you into appreciating walking, but you should. Okay, so all these assessments, we just did all the exercises. How does this translate for your client to when they're sitting or they're standing?

So if your client can't really breathe when they're sitting, we need to assess where their pelvis is stuck around their legs, stop trying to micromanage their spine. It's already doing the most. Work on getting your pelvis to move around your legs more. And you know what's super hard when you have scoliosis?

Awareness of spinal movement. That's why you might see me in exercise, having clients touch their pelvis and their ribs and then do a hip pinch. Why I am touching specific spots on the body is I'm trying to bring sensory awareness to spinal movement. So if I touch your, my ribs and pelvis. I can't move my lumbar spine.

I mean I can, but I'll feel the distance or the pressure change. So when you're trying to work pelvis around the legs, you need to give your clients with scoliosis specific sensory cues, and there better be awareness. What do I mean? I don't just want them to feel their hand. I want them to be like, oh shit.

I can feel that now. Something people don't like to recognize. In scoliosis, we talk about the convexity and the concavities. Okay, so convex, concave, oh, you all can't see me. I'm making a specific thing in my hand, kind of a u. So the concavity, convexity would be the top of the mountain and um, concavity is kind of the u.

Now, at those apex there is a lot of pressure and tension there. That's kind of where the spine is making the turn, but it might not be the most mobile section of the spine. So sometimes we can give awareness in big chunks, and other times we need to get awareness at the specific vertebral segment that's moving the most.

So practitioners touch your client's spine when they're moving, when they're reaching their arms, they're trying to lengthen their body. A cue that's used in Pilates all the time. What is happening at their spine? What vertebrae is shifting? Where is it going? Touch their spine? Even if you think it's not moving, it is.

Do not tell me you have x-ray vision. That's my least. When Pilates teachers say that to me, it makes me want my blood to boil. Yes, I know we're all good at looking at alignment, but you do not have x-ray vision. You don't see the micro movements that are happening, okay? Sometimes you can't even feel them.

Get good at feeling them. Get good at feeling the subtleties. It is crucial. Now, if you have scoliosis, touch the part of your touch. Any spot on your back you can reach right now. And I want you to shift your ribs right to left. Does the spot you're touching feel like it's moving? Or does it feel like it's being dragged?

Maybe touch a different spot. Shift right to left. Does that spot feel like it's moving or does it feel like it's being dragged? And if you know what I mean, touch those spots when you're moving other parts. And if you don't know what I mean, find someone who can help you. Have them touch your back. This is critical, and when you're thinking about your exercises, I want you thinking about how it's affecting your walking and sitting, and can you throw in some exercises when you're walking or sitting every so often?

I have a little bit of spinal curvature in my lumbar spine. I broke my left foot in college. It created a little bit of non neurological foot drop, but because of that. My spine had to move more because my foot, ankle, knee, and hip were moving less on that side. I wasn't accepting weight. So every, so when I'm walking, I literally stop and reach my left leg in opposition of my spine.

Getting in isometric, like, literally like pulling them in opposite directions. I feel my spine activate. What does that mean? My abs contract. My body almost looks like you plugged me into the wall. I feel connected again. I breathe and then I keep walking. So I've got exercises during my gait cycle, which is in the gate cycle.

Our brain's gonna use whatever the hell we've got available. So every so often I've gotta remind my brain what's available. Okay, so I threw a lot at you guys today. So questions to ask you yourself or your clients. Number one, it, can you move your head or can we move your head to not be so straight? To find slack in your cervical spine, something people don't realize.

There's this thing called a writing reflex, which your brain always wants your eyes to be in a kind of a straight line to see things clearly. A writing reflex is usually based off, the vestibular system is gonna tell you where when your head is straight, but when you have scoliosis, it actually interferes with that writing reflex.

So what happens is your body tilts your head, so your eyes are seeing things straight. So if your eyes were a disruptor like we tested earlier, that is probably what's you're using to make your head straight and not using your vestibular system. Hence, go back to closing the eyes. Help get your Pilates teacher, your pt, your ot, whoever you're working with to help your writing reflex happen.

Okay? This is critical. Use all these head and body movements. We changed eye position, head position, spinal position, and we use breath to test today. So are you able to breathe? And when you're doing your exercises, guys with scoliosis, I want you to think if you can't breathe naturally here, change the position.

Move your eyes, move your head, move your spine. Find the position you can breathe in. So if you're doing just like leg lifts or leg presses, or single leg stretch or so, any exercise, right? Make sure you can breathe normally there. If you can't even breathe normally there, your nervous system is already aggravated.

Your diaphragm is not mobilizing it much as it should. So we need to check that first because a diaphragm not being able to move is a huge threat to the brain. We wanna clear big threats first. My biggest threats are the foremost mobile joints in the body and the diaphragm. Always looking at those. Okay, and last but not least, is your stretching routine or your exercises translating it to sitting or standing?

Because if you're doing all these great exercises at the gym or in the clinic. But then you go to sit down and you didn't train how to sit down with all these key factors. Maybe you like to open your concavity a little bit. Maybe that really helps you. Maybe you do Schroth method. Maybe use the a million other methods that are out there.

Great. But can you do that in a seated position? Can you breathe in a seated position? Can your pelvis move around your damn legs in a seated position without over mobilizing your lumbar spine? And I'm gonna tell you a secret. It can't. Nobody's can. So if you have scoliosis, learn how to move your pelvis around your leg without changing your spine.

It will change your damn life, I promise. And like every human, if you're a human being listening to this podcast, get your pelvis mover on your legs without shifting at your ankles and without shifting your spine, it will change your goddamn world. You're welcome. Also don't be sneaky with the cervical spine.

I'm the queen of that. I get my lumbar spine to be still, and that's in air quotes and my cervical spine's doing crazy shit. Okay, I went three minutes over. I apologize. I could talk about scoliosis for days. I actually have a neuro studio workshop on scoliosis where we look at the neuro applications of scoliosis.

We look at the visual system, the vestibular system, and how to correct the writing reflex and other reflexes in scoliosis. If you're a movement professional and have done other scoliosis trainings, I highly recommend checking that out and reaching out to me about that. Because yes, it is about proprioception and movement, and I love all those techniques.

I have no notes for those techniques other than you need to work the other neurological systems, the visual and vestibular, and integrate that with the proprioceptive change. If you can do that, oh my God, you will have a line out your door because you'll be making people feel so good. I, I don't even know what to tell you.

And if you have scoliosis and you're listening to this, stop settling for, okay. There's more for you. Figure out what it means to create spinal slack. Some of my level three neuro studio teachers are very gifted and working with scoliosis. Charlene Gibbons. Um, I will, I've gotta, I'll find her Instagram for you guys.

I'll put it on my Instagram. She is a dancer and she really shows how to use these techniques to improve your dancing. Stephanie Bitner Bitner Movement. She was a Rockette, also a dancer, but was in a major accident, has a full spinal fusion scoliosis. She uses these techniques as well. I've got a lot of other teachers, but those two particular, um, I really would love you to check out their Instagram.

Stephanie's in New York, Charlene's in Canada, and if you need to find someone near you. Reach out. I will help you find someone, even if they're not a neuros studio trained person. Just find somebody who will listen and help you answer these questions. Stop settling for, okay. You deserve more. Find spinal slack and reach out to me when you do because I cannot wait to hear about it.

So thank you guys so much. I hope you enjoyed this episode. We're just dipping our toe in scoliosis. Don't feel like you have to be an expert. And if anything I said confused you, don't worry. I'm gonna do a whole episode about um, vestibular system. I'm gonna do a whole episode about stretching and a whole episode about breathing.

All right. Thank you guys. Have a great day.